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Radtel RT-470

Added by Ruslan Taghiyev over 1 year ago. Updated 7 months ago.

Status:
Resolved
Priority:
Normal
Assignee:
Category:
-
Target version:
Start date:
02/07/2023
Due date:
% Done:

100%

Estimated time:
Equipment Loan/Gift Offered:
Yes
I read the instructions above:
Yes

Files

mml_jc_8810-v0.1.py (18 KB) mml_jc_8810-v0.1.py Test driver. Download only. Jim Unroe, 03/27/2023 05:45 PM
mml_jc_8810-v0.3.py (18.4 KB) mml_jc_8810-v0.3.py Test driver. Download only. Added 2nd fingerprint. Jim Unroe, 03/28/2023 03:18 PM
mml_jc_8810-v0.5.py (17.9 KB) mml_jc_8810-v0.5.py Test driver. Download & upload. Jim Unroe, 03/30/2023 12:38 PM
mml_jc_8810-v0.6.py (17.9 KB) mml_jc_8810-v0.6.py Test driver. Expanded frequency ranges. Jim Unroe, 03/30/2023 06:46 PM
mml_jc_8810-v0.7.py (36.4 KB) mml_jc_8810-v0.7.py Test driver. Adds settings tabs. Jim Unroe, 03/31/2023 07:16 PM
Actions #1

Updated by Ruslan Taghiyev over 1 year ago

Supported frequencies:

1) 136-180MHz(RX/TX)
2) 200-260MHz(RX/TX)
3) 350-400MHz(RX/TX)
4) 400-520MHz(RX/TX)
5) 108-136MHz (AM RX) - Air Band Receive Only
6) 66-108MHz (FM RX)- FM RADIO

Features:

  1. Support NOAA U.S Weather Channel Receive
  2. One key copy frequency (Auto frequency capture) without PC programming
  3. Output Power 10w for some bands ( not for all bands)
  4. Transmission time out
  5. Frequency hopping function
  6. 8 steps: 2.5k, 5k, 6.25k, 10k, 12.5k, 20k, 25k, 50k
  7. Power saving mode
  8. VOX
  9. Support Voice encryption.
  10. The channel is busy and the transmission is prohibited
  11. Low battery warning, battery voltage display, high and low point forbidden
  12. Automatic backlight
  13. Three channel display modes (frequency, channel number, channel name)
  14. Three scanning methods (time, carrier, search)
  15. The frequency difference direction is selectable in frequency mode
  16. In frequency mode, the frequency difference frequency can be selected between 0-99.9995MHz
  17. Channel parameters can be edited and stored in frequency mode
  18. 256 storage channels (128x2 groups)
  19. Emergency alarm
  20. Voice Encryption function
  21. DTMF code function
  22. Support boot interface customization
  23. FM Radio
  24. Computer programming
  25. Dual frequency point waiting
Actions #2

Updated by Ruslan Taghiyev over 1 year ago

  • File RT-470_user_manual_compressed.pdf added
Actions #3

Updated by Dan Smith over 1 year ago

  • File deleted (RT-470_user_manual_compressed.pdf)
Actions #4

Updated by Dan Smith over 1 year ago

Please don't attach copyrighted material to the tracker. Even if it's freely available, we do not have permission to distribute it. I'm sure the manual is find-able if needed, although it is not useful or necessary for a driver.

Actions #5

Updated by Admin Md over 1 year ago

I confirm that it is a good Radio Station with true 10W.

Actions #6

Updated by Ruslan Taghiyev over 1 year ago

Ruslan Taghiyev wrote in #note-1:

Supported frequencies:

1) 136-180MHz(RX/TX)
2) 200-260MHz(RX/TX)
3) 350-400MHz(RX/TX)
4) 400-520MHz(RX/TX)
5) 108-136MHz (AM RX) - Air Band Receive Only
6) 66-108MHz (FM RX)- FM RADIO

Features:

  1. Support NOAA U.S Weather Channel Receive
  2. One key copy frequency (Auto frequency capture) without PC programming
  3. Output Power 10w for some bands ( not for all bands)
  4. Transmission time out
  5. Frequency hopping function
  6. 8 steps: 2.5k, 5k, 6.25k, 10k, 12.5k, 20k, 25k, 50k
  7. Power saving mode
  8. VOX
  9. Support Voice encryption.
  10. The channel is busy and the transmission is prohibited
  11. Low battery warning, battery voltage display, high and low point forbidden
  12. Automatic backlight
  13. Three channel display modes (frequency, channel number, channel name)
  14. Three scanning methods (time, carrier, search)
  15. The frequency difference direction is selectable in frequency mode
  16. In frequency mode, the frequency difference frequency can be selected between 0-99.9995MHz
  17. Channel parameters can be edited and stored in frequency mode
  18. 256 storage channels (128x2 groups)
  19. Emergency alarm
  20. Voice Encryption function
  21. DTMF code function
  22. Support boot interface customization
  23. FM Radio
  24. Computer programming
  25. Dual frequency point waiting
Actions #7

Updated by Ruslan Taghiyev over 1 year ago

This Radio is very similar to RT 490. The driver for RT490 develeped by AngelOf9 https://chirp.danplanet.com/attachments/7833) should be very useful in developing the driver for RT 470.

Actions #8

Updated by Herbert Smith KI5VGT over 1 year ago

I have both the RT-490 and the RT-470. I worked with Angel09 for the developer plug-in that allows the RT-490 to work with Chirp. I can tell you that the RT-470 and the RT-490 are very different. For one, the chips and circuitry are new creations by the manufacturer Math Mark. Radtel is a partner with Math Mark in China and if you read the publicly available FCC certs for the RT-470, you will see that Radtel and Math Mark are co-submitters. The RT-470 is a great radio and I agree that we should work to have it compatible with Chirp. In order for this to happen, we need a Chirp developer to offer here to do the work. As they did with the RT-490, you can most likely count on our Radtel contact (Kevin Xie, Xiamen Radtel Electronics Co.,Ltd) to provide the necessary sample. Kevin is aware of this chirp thread and he messaged me last night asking if I would assist and of course, I will. I do not have the programming tools and skills to do the programming, but just as I did with Angel09, I can provide plug testing as they progress.

Actions #9

Updated by Ruslan Taghiyev over 1 year ago

It seems that Radtel RT-470 and Ruyage UV98 are identical radios designed by Math Mark (JJCC). The driver developed for RT-470 might support both of the models. In case of Radtel RT490 and Abbree AR-869 (which are the creations of JJCC too) , the driver worked for both of the radios.

Actions #10

Updated by Ruslan Taghiyev over 1 year ago

Please, change Equipment Loan Offered status to Yes.

Actions #11

Updated by Ruslan Taghiyev over 1 year ago

I just have messaged Jim Unroe, the famous CHIRP Developer to help us. Hope he will respond soon.

Actions #12

Updated by Jim Unroe over 1 year ago

  • Target version set to chirp-py3
  • Equipment Loan/Gift Offered set to Yes

Ruslan Taghiyev wrote in #note-11:

I just have messaged Jim Unroe, the famous CHIRP Developer to help us. Hope he will respond soon.

Ruslan was able to arrange to have someone representing Radtel donate a Radtel RT-470 to me to use for CHIRP development. It arrived yesterday (28-Feb-2023). It will be added to my stack of radios waiting to be investigated. Thanks Ruslan and Radtel.

Jim KC9HI

Actions #13

Updated by Jim Unroe about 1 year ago

Has anyone measured the TX power output of their radio? The user manual that came with the radio and the one I downloaded from the Radtel website indicates that the radio has 2 TX output power levels (5W/2W). The radio and factory programming software in reality supports 3 TX power output levels (H/M/L). I would be interested in what you have measured from your radio, especially if you have a Radtel RT-470L.

On my RT-470 I measured roughly 10H/8M/4L watts.

Jim KC9HI

Actions #14

Updated by John Portnoy about 1 year ago

According to some reports, this station cannot transmit from 300 to 309 MHz. I wonder if this is true?

Actions #15

Updated by Jim Unroe about 1 year ago

John Portnoy wrote in #note-14:

According to some reports, this station cannot transmit from 300 to 309 MHz. I wonder if this is true?

According to the ranges listed in Note-1 above and in the User Manual that I downloaded from the Radtel website (which slightly differs from the ranges shown in Note-1 above), those reports would be true.

Jim KC9HI

Actions #16

Updated by John Portnoy about 1 year ago

Jim Unroe wrote in #note-15:

John Portnoy wrote in #note-14:

According to some reports, this station cannot transmit from 300 to 309 MHz. I wonder if this is true?

According to the ranges listed in Note-1 above and in the User Manual that I downloaded from the Radtel website (which slightly differs from the ranges shown in Note-1 above), those reports would be true.

Jim KC9HI

I meant even if it's a fully open range radio (by desoldering the chip and editing the flash dump manually). Even so, there is no transmission in this section. Quite strange radio behavior

Actions #17

Updated by Jim Unroe about 1 year ago

Does anyone have the Radtel RT-470L? If you can, would you provide the measured H, M & L TX power output levels. Thanks.

Jim KC9HI

Actions #18

Updated by Jim Unroe about 1 year ago

Let's see if the attached test driver module can read some radios. To use it follow the instructions here: LoadingTestModules.

If a download is successful, please attach the downloaded image to this issue. In the Optional Description field include the actual Vendor/Model of your radio and its firmware version (menu 50).

Jim KC9HI

Actions #19

Updated by Jim Unroe about 1 year ago

Jim Unroe wrote in #note-18:

Let's see if the attached test driver module can read some radios. To use it follow the instructions here: LoadingTestModules.

If a download is successful, please attach the downloaded image to this issue. In the Optional Description field include the actual Vendor/Model of your radio and its firmware version (menu 50).

Jim KC9HI

I forgot to mention that you would use Vendor: Radtel and Model: RT-470 to download from your RT-470 like radio variant no matter what the actual Vendor/Model is. The more variants that we can test, the better the support will be.

Jim KC9HI

Actions #20

Updated by Jim Unroe about 1 year ago

This test driver adds support for a second "fingerprint" found in-the-wild.

Jim KC9HI

Actions #21

Updated by Jim Unroe about 1 year ago

I am now attaching v0.5 for all to test. It has latest code and should work for both download and upload.

Before trying to do any uploading , be sure to make a fresh download from your radio and save it, unedited, to a CHIRP Radio Images (*.img) file to be kept in a safe place as a back up.

If all goes well, some Settings tabs should be available soon.

Thank you for your testing.
Jim KC9HI

Actions #22

Updated by Jim Unroe about 1 year ago

I am now attaching v0.6 for all to test.

This version expands the frequency ranges. The original frequency ranges were set to match those specified in the User Manual. They have been expanded to match the radio's actual as-shipped ranges from the factory.

  • 108.000-136.000 MHz
  • 136.000-180.000 MHz (was 136.000-174.000 MHz)
  • 200.000-260.000 MHz (was 220.000-260.000 MHz)
  • 330.000-400.000 MHz (was 350.000-390.000 MHz)
  • 400.000-520.000 MHz

Thank you for your testing.
Jim KC9HI

Actions #23

Updated by Jim Unroe about 1 year ago

I am now attaching v0.7 for all to test.

This test driver...

  • fixes some issues when programming repeaters
  • adds settings tabs

Jim KC9HI

Actions #24

Updated by Jim Unroe about 1 year ago

  • Status changed from In Progress to Resolved
  • % Done changed from 90 to 100

Patch submitted.

Jim KC9HI

Actions #25

Updated by Chris Johnston 7 months ago

Hey Jim,

For me, on MacOS Catalina, the latest is no bueno. I get an error message about
The radio did not accept program mode after five tries.
Check you interface cable and power cycle your radio.

I'm runnning MacOS Catalina - CHIRP next-20231108 on Python 3.8.2 wxPython 4.2.0 osx-cocoa (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.2.0

I'll keep reading.

Actions #26

Updated by Jim Unroe 7 months ago

  • I read the instructions above set to Yes

Chris Johnston wrote in #note-25:

Hey Jim,

For me, on MacOS Catalina, the latest is no bueno. I get an error message about
The radio did not accept program mode after five tries.
Check you interface cable and power cycle your radio.

I'm runnning MacOS Catalina - CHIRP next-20231108 on Python 3.8.2 wxPython 4.2.0 osx-cocoa (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.2.0

I'll keep reading.

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